Eliminate Club Auditions

now listen to two students discussing the letter. Woman: You know, I can understand where Sergio is coming from in that letter. But I think he's wrong.
Man: Really, I mean, I can see his point about the requirements kind of puts a damper on things, doesn't it?
Woman: Well? But for groups that have them, I think it's actually the opposite.
Man: Oh. Woman: I mean, the requirements are there for a reason. Like, for example, I'm in the chess club, and we travel to other schools and play in tournaments and we want to win.
Man: So people really should have a certain level of expertise.
Woman: Yeah, that's the only way it is fun. It's actually a total downer if we don't stand a chance of winning against the other schools we play.
Man: I hear you, but isn't it? I mean, my mom's a chef, and she always talks about being in the cooking club at university. That's how she first got into cooking. So, I mean, isn't there value in that, letting people try new things? Like Sergio said.
Woman: okay, sure, but does he not realize there's already a bunch of other opportunities, clubs that are open to everyone, the painting club, the Environmental Science Club, I think there's even a ballroom dance club. I don't know so many you want to join. You join, you know?
Man: Well, it's true. They're not all exclusive. Woman: Sure. So lots of opportunities, like your mom had, for inspiration and all you.